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Galilee · Tattoo lover Joined: 09 Oct 2007 Posts: 31 Location: Kent

Scanning the design into the PC first right?

Ed Sr · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: ...

Garyzda1 · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject:

Great idea ED. Smile

My thermofax transfer maker is broken right now, so I'm making transfers with a dot matrix printer. I use my thermofax sheets in the printer and get A+++ transfers. I might not even bother fixing my transfer maker.

bull · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Twist on stencil making

[quote="Ed Sr"]I heard someone say this and I had to try it for myself.
If you are still drawing stencils because a thermofax is out of the money picture you can make a stencil by using tracing paper in an ink-jet printer.
You have to be really careful as it will smudge easy in the printer but I tried it, cut it out and transfered with green soap and it works great.

Just though I would pass this along.[/quote]

well i really hope you called the company that makes the ink for the inkjet printer, because as far as i know it is not made to be tattooed into the skin. You could really harm someone doing this. I have never herd anyone using inkjet printer ink. There are special ink and thermalfax paper made for tattooing that has been tested and approved for tattooing into peoples skin.
thats like taking pen ink and tattooing with it. you have to get all the info first you don't just try something with out knowing the hole facts. i would never let my artist do that to me I would want proof its safe. we have enough problems just with tattoo inks on the market. and the red ink problem we had for years. I can not believe you are telling people that you have done this!!! well i guess if you do not care that people know you are using them as Guinea pigs!!! who thaught you how to tattoo. since you are A owner/ artist. how long have you been tattooing not how long have you been a owner??( i am just writghting whats in your profile)what shop do you own?

Garyzda1
obvously you do know what your doing but i do not think i would tell give that info out freely.

Ed Sr · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: ...

bull · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:12 am Post subject:

[quote="Ed Sr"]Yes Bull Of course I did!
HP printer ink is AP certified non-toxic ink.
Thanks for you input though.
As far as trying something without checking it out first... you are right you MUST check it out first that goes without saying.

/[i]I can not believe you are telling people that you have done this!!! well i guess if you do not care that people know you are using them as Guinea pigs!!! [i]

First how about watch how you are talking to people. You have no idea who you are talking to so don't start by talking down to people. There are already to many people in this business that treat others like crap and it doesn't need another. You could have just said... Make sure you check out the ink to see if it is OK to tattoo with. I have never blasted anyone in a post and neither do others here. Help and input is appreciated by everyone here but not bashing.[/i][/quote]

i am not bashing anyone i am stating a fact inkjet ink is not made to be tattooed into the skin you get it in writing from hp that states its safe for tattooing and they have tested it on humans and the get back to me. don't started getting in a tisy there. i have been around tattooing probably allot longer than you. and how you wrote it . dose not say you check into it!!!!!! so do not cop a attitude on something that is completely Right for what you wrote!!!!!I been around tattooing for 50 years. how long have you been tattooing and who taught you about using inkjet printer ink?thats all i asked its just a question not nothing to snap at!!!

oh_bugger · Tattoo addict Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 518

Bull

Chill out, this is a friendly place play a friendly game, you have been around tattooing for 50 years thats cool, fo all i know Ed Sr may have been around for 60 years, that doesnt matter.

By all means criticise and question people but please try to phrase things in such a way as to not cause bad feelings.

Cheers

O.B.

Ed Sr · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: .

bull · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:03 am Post subject:

[quote="Ed Sr"]Thanks for your input Bull. No hard feelings on this side.[/quote]
and that is fine i will Fraze thing better. and he should explainer things to. not just what he rote so i am so sorry. and so ed Sr how long have you been tattooing how long have you been tattooing people. do you have a web site? can i see please? who did you apprentice under i may even know him/ her i been all over the USA. lest forget the miss under standing. i just would like to know more about you maybe i can visit when i come back to the states??

tatter1up · Tattoo lover Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 2

bull · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: yeah right

well i have been reading down this post and it really seems like a good idea to use the ink jet printer for your stencils. (everyone does it there own way) i personally am going to try this it just might save me some time. The reason i quoted bull was first it sounds like you are stuck in your ways not wanting to to try new things second i really wouldn't want you tattoing me or anyone i knew just because well to be blunt you cant spell so what does that say for your self im sorry if it sounds rude but its the truth and the truth hurts sometimes

( and its tattooing not tattoing)" what does my spelling have to do with anything?

oh yeah thanks for the heads up guys with trying the printer for stencils Smile

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I have read this site and was supposed to have nice people? Then ed cops an attitude because I wrote something that did not sound wright, for the way he wrote it. I said I was sorry if he took it wrong then he goes and laughs at me for having seen a person stop breathing when he got tattooed. ( it was not funny it was very serious)
well for someone that said they read the post and said i am stuck in my ways you did not read (Garyzda1
obviously you do know what your doing but i do not think i would tell give that info out freely) because you can use certain machines with certain paper
well he i been on line all day getting the facts straight if you care about peoples well beings then read if not then do not bother.
here is from hp
[b]Thank you for contacting HP Total Care. [/b]The ink is non-toxic in the concentrations given and lead-free. [u]HP inks are safe when used as intended[/u]. [u]Ink should not be intentionally applied to skin.[/u]We encourage our customers to seek professional medical advice in the event of the accidental ingestion of any HP ink. Hewlett-Packard also provides the HP Health Line to answer health related questions concerning HP ink products. The HP Health Line is 1-800-457-4209. You can find MSDS information at:
Sincerely,
Amy
HP Total Care
Our advice is strictly limited to the question(s) asked and is based on the information provided to us. HP does not assume any responsibility or liability for the advice given and shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, special, incidental or consequential damages in connection with the use of this information. Always back up your data.
For more information, including technical information updates, please visit our Web site at
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Date: 11/19/2007 05:18:34 MST
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[b]This is what I have pulled up on my own on hp inkjet ink[/b]
Health Effects
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The following information (Health Effects, Handling/Disposal, and Ingredients) is taken from the product label and/or the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) prepared by the manufacturer. The National Library of Medicine does not evaluate information from the product label or the Material Safety Data Sheet.
Acute Health Effects: From MSDS:
Routes of Exposure: Potential routes of overexposure to this product are skin
and eye contact. Inhalation of vapor and ingestion are not expected to be
significant routes of exposure for this product under normal use conditions.
[b]Health Hazards[/b]
Any potential hazards are presumed to be due to exposure to the components.
2-Pyrrolidone: Contact with eyes and skin may result in irritation. Inhalation may result in respiratory irritation. Ingestion may result in nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.
[b]Chronic Health Effects: MSDS:[/b]
Carbon Black: Chronic inhalation studies performed with fine dust particles resulted in lung tumors in animals. The IARC classification was based upon these results. IARC also concluded there is inadequate evidence in humans for the carcinogenicity of carbon black. Inhalation of fine dust particles is not expected to occur during normal conditions of use of this ink.
[b]Carcinogenicity: MSDS:[/b]
Carbon black has been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as Group 2B (possibly human carcinogen). None of the other
ingredients have been classified as carcinogens according to EU, IARC, MAK, NTP or OSHA.
[b] First Aid: MSDS:[/b]
Inhalation: Remove to fresh air. If symptoms persist, consult a physician.
Ingestion: If stomach upset persists, consult a physician.
Skin: Wash affected areas thoroughly with soap and water. If irritation persists, consult a physician. Eyes: Do not rub eyes. Immediately flush with large amounts of clean, lukewarm water (low pressure) for at least 15 minutes or until particles are removed. If irritation persists, consult a physician.
SORRY (not being mean at all) I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY FIND OUT WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN? ON PEOPLE_LE BEFORE YOU POST AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE DOES IT AND SOMEONE GETS HURT REAL BAD.
Now i called the us and found out about this edsr guy to and he has posted that he has been tattooing for years. ( wrong he has only started tattooing anyone since 4 /5 months ago 1 month before he got his license. He self taught himself how to tattoo in month. I talked to a few tattoo parlors in RI and they know him very well. and since we do not bash here I will not say what they have said.
So all I have to say is I am sorry if you want to take advice from him and not some that has 50 experience and love the new and better ways of doing things ( safely of course the I was lead to the wrong site)
I have herd ed had been bashing a another artist on his site for the last 4 months. it is not there now they say and i have check but the people I have talk to have no reason to lie about him.
so take what you want from what i wrote and leave the rest. And again (Garyzda1 obviously you do know what your doing with your printer everyone uses them with that paper good going for checking your info first.
sorry my computer is running slow the spelling mite be messed up it likes to jump out of this reply board and onto my search space. I guess I will go talk on tattoo now were they do not get upset when you try to warn people. no one can always wright the facts with out someone getting offended which i am sorry you took wrong mr EDsr it was not ment to offened.

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tatter1up · Tattoo lover Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 2

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Garyzda1 · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: WARNING

[quote="tatter1up"]ANDY HARTY TATTOOING OUT OF UNLICENSED SHOP IN NORTHERN RI WITH USED NEEDLES AND HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH HEPITIS[/quote]

Pretty pathetic that you would come to the internet to slander someone rather than having the problem dealt with at the propper levell. You spammed this same post in a couple of places on this forum allready.

Very lame indeed. Rolling Eyes

Garyzda1 · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: yeah right

[quote="tatter1up"]

well i have been reading down this post and it really seems like a good idea to use the ink jet printer for your stencils. (everyone does it there own way) i personally am going to try this it just might save me some time. The reason i quoted bull was first it sounds like you are stuck in your ways not wanting to to try new things second i really wouldn't want you tattoing me or anyone i knew just because well to be blunt you cant spell so what does that say for your self im sorry if it sounds rude but its the truth and the truth hurts sometimes

oh yeah thanks for the heads up guys with trying the printer for stencils Smile

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Maybe make sure that your grammar is up to snuff before you point out the flaws in someone elses. Rolling Eyes

Ed Sr · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: Thank You Tatter Up

Thank You Tatter Up
For removing your posts. Please do not post stuff like that. It only hurts everyone and feeds the frenzy of those that only care to destroy others.!

Garyzda1 · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject:

I think we all need to calm down here and not turn on one and other.

After all........ This is a great place and it sure would be nice to keep it that way.

Smile

dickyknee · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:48 am Post subject:

lets try keeping things civil on here or i will have no choice but to remove the whole thread ...Thanks .

chic · Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:13 am Post subject:

I am watching.....

please give advice and not criticize or slander..
we can get into trouble so please behave....